EVE Search - The abusive side of PvP on E.V.E.

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

The abusive side of PvP on E.V.E.

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 1 post(s)
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.16 09:57:00 - [1] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/11/2006 09:58:31 There is no easy mode in eve. Which is how it should be tbh. However there is a fairly easy solution; Ditch the corp and find a good one. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:19:00 - [2] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/11/2006 10:22:06 Originally by: Polinus The problem is not that. The main problem is that I was kept locked in a system unabel to run for 1 week. Every time I tried I got killed. Shuttle, Frigate with MWD, setting you clone in a diffrent system. You didnt try hard enough. Originally by: Polinus And Players with ridiculowsly powerfull stuff go just grief weak players instaed of going do something interesting. What is the fun of pursuing noobs in 0.4 in a machariel? First of all, there are no griefers in eve. You got killed in what we like to call, a PVP game. The thing behind a PVP game is that people to to PVP, you know, shoot other people. Originally by: Polinus And yes there ISeasy mode on eve!! That machariel was playing on easy mode. That is the problem the easy mode is only for players that are in game for 3 years! And also there is the ultra easy mode on empire. Right because there arent any people with the same or more SP would just loveee to kill a machariel. Originally by: Polinus I don't want an easy mode. I want an AVERAGE mode. Ant reasonable game designer is able to do so. I worked (DEVELOPER) in other MMOs and on that aspect EVE is one of the worst!!! Any reasonable game design tries to keep all the players with chance to have fun Then you've found the wrong game im afraid. Eve does not cater to the weak who need someone to hold their hand, it caters to whoever is the strongest. At the end of the day, you got yourself in a mess, there where various solution to your problem, you choose a completely diffrent option, which would obviously fail and then you decided to complain on the forums. Things you should have done instead: - Grabbed a shuttle - Grabbed a frigate with MWD - Made instabookmarks before going into low sec - Get your friends to fit something useful. Vagabonds and Machariel are both minmatar ships, guess what? Get some minmatar jammers on them and they cant shoot anyone. All you gotta do now is web and scramble them and they wont go anywhere, hence they will die to sentries. Trying to run out of camped system with a slow ship and whining on the forums wherent on the options list. Originally by: Polinus no lvl 1 mission will give you any fun. And you are still too far form lvl 2 missions ( on the rythim I was going it would take 3 months to reach level 2 missions). So no chalange at one point... so you try to find something more fun to do. But there is no.. " a bit more difficult" place to have fun. There is nothing fun in 0.5 and above.. nothing.. until i can unloack level 2 agents.. and I dont want to pay just do do NOT FUN things!! EVE must insert contents for this level of paying. Cause that is one of reaosn so many accounts are short lived. Level 2 missions arent all that much more difficult then level 1's, with a battlecruiser or hell, reasonably equipped cruiser they will become easy as hell. Theyre not gonna add content to compensate for the lack of player skill or knowledge, this is why joining a corporation with experienced players is much easier, newbies cant help newbies. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:28:00 - [3] Originally by: Radioactive Babe in reality they are scum of the earth, massing huge firepower to take down n00bs in cruisers/BC's with pve setups ... You cant really blame pirates for killing people who are abolutely clueless and prefer whining on the forums over actually doing something against pirates. Originally by: Radioactive Babe as well as that, coming onto this forum is a waste of time because it is crawling with them (what else can you do when you are permacamping some gate waiting for a shuttle to come through) ... their usual answer is find a better corp, because as we all know, pvp corps are always delighted to take <2mil sp players You dont need a PVP corp, you need a corp with people who know something about the game. It doesnt matter how many clueless people you dump in a channel, in the end theyre all still clueless and wont be able to help each other. Originally by: Radioactive Babe take those agony unleashed pvp courses Good advice. Originally by: Radioactive Babe You will never get a good fight out of them, they are just 20+mil sp chars in faction ships and HAC's popping newbs, run for their SS and log if anything decent came along And yet they win? Why is that? Ah thats right, they adapt to their situation. Originally by: Radioactive Babe Just dont bother posting here, you'll get flamed (as I will now) to hell and back for daring to complain about lame players/tactics Youre not getting flamed for daring to complain, youre getting flamed because you want to see game mechanics changed to make the game easier for you. Instead of doing what the rest of us, adapting to the situation around us, as one is supposed to with this game, you whine on the forums about the game being to hard. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:29:00 - [4] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/11/2006 10:31:13 Originally by: Eddie Stobart I have since war decked the corp and the cowards all left and formed another corp so I have war decked that one, chances are I will never get to kill them because they will just keep forming new corps on a daily basis. And a War dec takes 48hrs before you can fight. Petition, leaving and refoming corps to avoid war decs is an exploit. Originally by: Polinus But if i dont find frigate flying fun? I am condeemed to several months of no fun gaming? If there were Cruiser class targets in 0.5 and above I would stay there. If at least I could reach missions where i could face cruiser.. .. but that would take a loong time And my 800k SP character is all on combat skills, cruiser V 4 gunnery 5 medium guns 4 maxed armor skills. So it should be possible to fly a cruiser reasonably. Missions would the answer for you. Originally by: Polinus And what is teh difference on0.4 and 0.1? Why not make the 0.4 sentries much more powerfull? The number of sentries is the diffrence, it wont matter though. Ever battleship can tank sentries for a limited amount of time. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:38:00 - [5] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/11/2006 10:40:58 Originally by: Zebler And on a final note to the community, can you really imagine what its going to be like if interdictors (with their bubbles) are allowed into low sec!!? Pirates could start killing the more experienced players as well instead of just the people who lack a clue, dont fit stabs and dont have instas? Originally by: Polinus I dont make instas becasue i think they are an exploitation of the game mechanisc. They cause lag and I don't like being part of one of the main problems of eve./quote] You shoot yourself in the foot and then whine that it hurts...? Originally by: Polinus Just amake sentries more powerfull specially on 0.3 and 0.4 and much of the problems would be gone. The thing is, apart form you and a small group of other people, nobody thinks theres a problem. Hence making sentries more powerful couldnt fix a problem that doesnt exist. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.16 11:18:00 - [6] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/11/2006 11:19:44 Originally by: Polinus Game mechanicst exploitation is not something should be used as an argument to support hw well done a game is. CCP must alow things to be done in single account and not using exploits like instas. If CCP tells us "Its not what we had in mind when we designed it but we dont consider it an exploit" then it really doesnt matter what you think about it. You are unwilling to use instas and you die because of it, quit whining or start using instas. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.16 11:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Polinus lol I develop games that make eve look not much more complex than mine sweeper. Me too, though in the weekends i prefer working on my world domination plans. Originally by: Polinus I am not impatient, but after 1 month i want to start having some fun!! Theres only one person that can make eve fun for you. Thats you. If eve's not fun then you're doing something wrong. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.17 11:11:00 - [8] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 17/11/2006 11:11:31 Originally by: Tissa Not sure I agree with you there, most of the "0mG!1 i got GREAFED" whines are newbies who get in a BS as fast as possible then wonder why they are sitting in a pod 0.4 seconds after jumping into a 0.4. But there are a few people who deliberately target one player or small corp and make their lives a misery in an attempt to make them quit the game. I prefer to call these people playground bullies rather than greafers. You get bullies everywhere and the same rule applies in eve as when you were at school, go run and tell teacher* or a responsible adult**. Wel i said "little to none", im sure theres a bunch through out eve who kill you in the hopes of ruining your day. But by the end of the day griefers are just a term random clueless carebears use to describe anyone who doesnt let them mine their precious ore in peace. Hell, these carebears are the griefers for spamming our pretty forum with their pointless rabble ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.17 12:19:00 - [9] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 17/11/2006 12:20:50 Originally by: Gavin Kineli Most people replying here have played the game a while, and we know how it works. This guy has an 800k SP character. Does he know the ins and outs of the game? How to slip past gate campers? Probably not. Of course he doesnt, which is why people usually tell new players to find a corporation with older members. And no, they im talking about some PVP corp with a 10 mill SP req. Theres plenty of empire corps who recruit and help new players with advice. I faced the same problem when i started with eve, i started with a bunch of friends from a diffrent game and we started a corp together. The result? Well my loss was a uninsured battleship in low because we had no clue what instas or warp core stabs were. Did we whine on the forums about the game being too hard and pirates being griefers? No, we adapted. Originally by: James Duar Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Gavin Kineli stuff Originally by: James Duar stuff Isn't it funny though how some people learn and adapt, while others come to the forum and whine? I don't get it is this a veiled insult, and if so, at whom? Its not really an insult, its an observation. Some people adapt to problem they face, other people try and get someone else to remove the problem for them. Only one type of these players has what it takes to survive in eve, the other type usually ends up leaving eventually. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.17 13:21:00 - [10] Originally by: James Duar I get that, but I think my point remains valid - there is an appalling scarcity of information if you're a new player regarding a lot of game mechanics. It certainly won't stop people who want to complain from complaining, but it would help a lot of people. Well i agree with you to a certain extend. Making the tutorial bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger isnt going to fix it though. Theres only so much people can learn from the tutorial, the rest they have to figure out themselves or learn from other players. Originally by: James Duar If we could at least stress how dangerous low-sec is (i.e. it does not linearly become more dangerous) then it'd just be a net positive - it was certainly something I didn't know, though I did the sensible thing and somehow through luck saved my pod and scurried back to Empire to ask more questions. 'Dangerous' is arbitrary, low sec is only as dangerous as you make it. On top of that only the travel route systems and busy low sec systems are dangerous as they attract pirates, those empty dead end systems are safer then 1.0 systems themselves. When you try to jump into low sec you get a warning about it being dangerous, if people donÆt read it, ignore it or just plain old donÆt get it then the game cant be blamed for that. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.17 13:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Valan You can offer all the help in the world but some people just don't get it. A work mate of mine played for a while but he was useless. We repeatedly told him what not to do and he would still get popped on a weekly basis making the same mistake. Hehe reminds of a guy who used to be in my class. He was a nice guy but **** did he suck at eve ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.